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Sifiso
4/30/2008 08:06:07
IP: 196.4.141.12 |
Subject: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Scum of the earth!
Eish
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G
4/30/2008 08:32:48
IP: 84.252.241.202 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Agree, he behaved just like a kaffer
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Sifiso
4/30/2008 09:43:59
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Incest victim in a coma
30/04/2008 14:39 - (SA)
Amstetten - The young woman whose hospitalisation triggered the discovery that her family had been imprisoned and terrorised for decades was struggling for her life on Wednesday, as authorities weighed the future of her five siblings.
Kerstin Fritzl's condition was critical but stable, authorities said. The 19-year-old is one of seven children Josef Fritzl fathered with his daughter, who was held captive for 24 years in a dingy dungeon beneath his home.
Kerstin, who is in an induced coma, is undergoing dialysis because of the effects of lack of oxygen. She was brought to the hospital unconscious and later suffered seizures. The fate of her family came to light after doctors, mystified by her ailment, publicly appealed for her mother to come forward because they needed her medical history.
Authorities were providing little information about Fritzl, 73, who has confessed to locking up daughter Elisabeth since she was 18 and repeatedly raping her. He said he incinerated the body of one of her children, who died in infancy.
Leopold Etz, chief of homicide for Lower Austria province, said authorities were confident that Fritzl acted alone.
He said DNA tests confirmed that no other man entered the soundproof cellar rooms Fritzl made into a prison below his home.
Elisabeth "never said that her mother was in the cellar", Etz said.
'Who is Josef Fritzl?'
Amid the sordid details, precious little has been revealed about Fritzl's life or what led him to commit such a crime.
He was born April 9 1935, in Amstetten, a working-class town 120kn west of Vienna. He owned a number of properties in the region and paid his dues at the fisherman's club. Beside that, most neighbours or townsfolk remember only an affable, if unremarkable, fellow.
"Who is Josef Fritzl?" state broadcaster ORF asked in an online article. "All of Austria is asking this question, if not the entire world. What type of life did he previously lead, where did he work, how did he appear in public?"
It compiled a brief biography:
After mandatory schooling, Fritzl studied electric engineering at a polytechnic school and got a first job with steel company Voest. From 1969 to 1971 he worked for a construction material company in Amstetten, where he gained a reputation as an intelligent worker and a good technician. Then he went into the service industry and took over an inn 15 years ago.
Etz said a police team was further investigating Fritzl's past, adding that it could take weeks to develop a clearer profile.
Elisabeth, Rosemarie and the other five children, remained in psychiatric care on Wednesday. Clinic direction Berthold Kepplinger said on Tuesday they were doing "quite well" under the circumstances in the care of a team of specialists.
Authorities, meanwhile, were deliberating the future of Kerstin and her two brothers, aged five and 18, who effectively have no identities. Officials have discussed the possibility of providing new names to the children.
Who provided the tip?
He said Elisabeth has spoken "quite a lot" about what she went through in captivity, but he declined to provide details. "It was definitely dreadful for her and for her children," Kepplinger said.
The case started unfolding on April 19 when Kerstin was found unconscious and was taken to a hospital. After receiving a tip, police picked up Elisabeth and her father on Saturday. Fritzl freed the captive children the same day.
One remaining question is who provided the tip. Authorities have declined to comment.
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Sifiso
4/30/2008 10:06:54
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: The Austrians are asking themselves: Why didn't social services, who visited the family several times, notice anything unusual? How could the neighbours who all know each other in this part of town not have realised anything? How was Josef able to live a double life for almost a quarter of a century? And what did his wife, who according to the investigators "didn't ask questions", really know?
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eki
4/30/2008 10:14:46
IP: 67.140.159.3 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Yeah, just how do you get it past your wife to build a dungeon under your house, and then consistently take food and supplies down there for FOUR people ...
And the wife never noticed a thing?
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Sifiso
4/30/2008 10:20:47
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: You're right eki. The wife was aware of what was going on in that dungeon. They should be locked up (both of them).
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Fred
4/30/2008 16:16:31
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: They will get to the bottom of this in a CIVILICED manner Sifiso. If anybody needs to be locked up they WILL be. Dont get hysterical now and start burning things and kill innocent people. Try and relax and see the whiteman's system at work.
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eki
4/30/2008 16:21:04
IP: 67.140.159.3 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Careful there fred, you might fall off your high-horse like another member of your tribe.
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Fred
4/30/2008 16:35:48
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Nope thats not my tribe. Im somewhere in the middle between the killers of them and the ignoranters of them............!
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Fred
4/30/2008 16:40:17
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Or is it the "ignorantees"...........?
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eki
4/30/2008 16:48:50
IP: 67.140.159.3 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: I think the term is "IGNORAMUS". But i think i'll just call you "dumbfuck". ;)
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Fred
4/30/2008 17:00:25
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Your frustrations are merely the fruits of your ignorance (h)eksie ? I think it's time for you to meet up with WSA and see if there is any "salf to smeer" !!!
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Expat
4/30/2008 17:02:55
IP: 86.45.240.154 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: At least he's not the deputy president of the country! Our rapist is...
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Pam
4/30/2008 17:46:50
IP: 72.39.58.177 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Where is the death sentence when it is needed?
There should be no mercy for the savage.
Cannot believe that the wife knew nothng of the bsaement activities!
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waresuidafrikaner
4/30/2008 17:48:06
IP: 58.165.12.57 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: HEY..Fred,wat meen jy by dit,,meet up with WSA,and see if there is any salf to smeer,dit is 'n kwessie om te antwoord en die vraag is, en waarom dink jy so
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Fred
4/30/2008 18:29:26
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Eki raak ook nou n floeker omdat sy frustreerd is met haar onkunde.
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Good Manners Police
4/30/2008 21:03:19
IP: 72.39.58.177 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Eki - do not drop to the level of using foul language. It does not suit your image.
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Fred
4/30/2008 21:29:54
IP: 222.152.238.29 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: All them one eyed liberals hides the truth from themselves. In their frustrating state their true colours always surfaces.
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waresuidafrikaner.
4/30/2008 22:00:32
IP: 58.165.12.57 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: And them Two eyed Verkrampts, blinded NATIONAL RED LIGHT APARTHEID KAK
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Apfelstrudel
5/01/2008 05:32:01
IP: 91.13.82.235 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: The German newspapers said that when Kerstin was brought to the hospital, the authorities put a notice in the newspaper and got the police looking for her mother. Josef then went and fetched Elisabeth out and took her to the hospital where she managed to tell a doctor what had happened. Josef had spun a tale way back then, to the mother that Elisabeth had run away. She had tried to run away before but had come back - he had been abusing her since she was 11. He had forced Elisabeth to write letters asking not to be looked for and when the other three children 'appeared' as babies on the front step, they were accompanied by a letter from Elisabeth asking the parents to take care of them. He had the building of the cellar rooms authorised through the normal avenues under the pretense that they were for work. They think Kerstin's illness is genetic as a result of the incest.
This man tyrannised his whole family. They did not question him, they were barred from going into his 'work' rooms. He regularly beat them with fists from when they were little. They were all dead scared of him. The wife lived half of the time at one of his other properties, seems to have been a guesthouse. She was probably totally under his control and even if she suspected something she was too scared to say anything. What if she was wrong? What would happen to her then? A housewife, nowhere to go? He was very careful, even bought the groceries at out of town supermarkets and brought them in at night, through the garage. The police said his upkeep of his prisoners 'kept him very busy'.They say Elisabeth is 42 but looks 62, her hair is totally white.
No excuses. I am just like everyone else who cannot understand how someone can do this, how others don't see it happening. Too terrible.
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Sifiso
5/05/2008 03:52:26
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Barbarians / savages are everywhere....... you agree with me frotman?
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Lieberstein
5/05/2008 04:06:19
IP: 122.57.76.197 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Barbarians / savages are everywhere....... 99.9% are in Africa
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Sifiso
5/05/2008 05:45:33
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Liverstone and your uncle fred
Whether you like it or not the TRUTH is savagery knows no colour.
Now go to the nearest bottel store and get Klipdrift and coke to drown your sorrows. Eish wena.
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Sifiso
5/05/2008 09:47:27
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: This Fritzl freak deserves a slow painful death for the pain he caused to his family.
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Pam
5/05/2008 17:23:24
IP: 72.39.58.177 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Same applies to all rapists.
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Fred
5/05/2008 18:28:33
IP: 222.152.237.216 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: "Barbarians / savages are everywhere....... you agree with me frotman?"
Nope.....WRONG solly !!!
Barbarians and savages are VERY different from criminals and the mentally ill. Barbarians and savages are only found in black cultures. Do you agree with me solly?
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EKLAB
5/05/2008 19:03:14
IP: 41.242.95.42 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Sifiso
"This Fritzl freak deserves a slow painful death for the pain he caused to his family."
Whist I agree with the total might of the law sorting this evil man out your response is somewhat "Africa" in flavour.
Is this the Africa rennaisance? Speaking of which it has yet to dawn on Thabo that a "rennaisance" is a "re-enlightenment" which in African terms is an impossiblity since Africa has never been enlightened - EVER.
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Sifuso Buthelezi
5/06/2008 02:07:22
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Frotman why do you and your tribe fuck your own daughters?
Please answer my question. Ha ha ha
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5/06/2008 13:37:36
IP: 80.171.32.167 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Europe's Population Plummets
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In 1950, 32% of the world's population lived in developed countries in the West, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Today that figure has shrunk to 12%. Europe had 25% of the world's population in 1900. By 2050, Europe will have only 7%. In 1900, Europe had three times the population of Africa. By 2050, Africa will have three times the population of Europe.
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Ali
5/07/2008 13:56:55
IP: 196.207.32.37 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Fred
5/05/2008
18:28:33
IP: 222.152.237.216 RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message:
"Barbarians / savages are everywhere....... you agree with me frotman?"
Nope.....WRONG solly !!!
Barbarians and savages are VERY different from criminals and the mentally ill. Barbarians and savages are only found in black cultures. Do you agree with me solly?"
Nope, savages and barbarians are found in all societies and cultures, and the majority of child molestors and paedophiles world wide are white. Disgusting and shocking as that may be, that is a fact.
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Ali
5/07/2008 14:02:56
IP: 196.207.32.37 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: In fact, it may pain you to hear that black people practiced the art of no sex befre marriage. It was the whites who forced rape on black women and children, and as that was an accepted practice by the Baas, they started doing it themselves.
Your ancestors have the blood of many a young black girl child on their penises. Why is there such a huge coloured population in South Africa if your forefathers didn't dip into the chocolate every now and again? Heck, you could have aunties and uncles that you never knew about, as well as brothers, sisters, cousins, etc.
Face it. We are not all of pure blood, whatever you may like to think.
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Sifiso Sidumo
5/08/2008 02:34:23
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: "you could have aunties and uncles that you never knew about, as well as brothers, sisters, cousins, etc. "
You're right Ali - and he will think twice before showing his hatred of blacks (openly).
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waresuidafrikaner
5/08/2008 18:39:03
IP: 124.180.119.194 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Ali,sorry,but they were also not WHITE?,check the history of the AFRIKANER?
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sIFISO SEDUMO
5/09/2008 04:30:15
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: "Ali,sorry,but they were also not WHITE?,check the history of the AFRIKANER?
LOL @ wsa.............
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5/15/2008 07:05:20
IP: 196.4.141.12 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Everytime I read articles on this old chap, I become angrier and angrier.
Maybe I should stop.
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KOEKIE
5/15/2008 09:09:02
IP: 78.147.187.148 | RE: Josef Fritzl (73)
Message: Their are hundreds of men shitting on their own doorsteps and the wives are totally aware of it. If he told his wife to stay out of the cellar and he had a forcefull personality i supposse that is what she did, stayed out of it. Some woman are naive , some kids get raped in their own home's under the wive's nose so it is understandable that his wife did not know about it.
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